Rule Reminders & Changes
Discord Bots
Raiding Ahead
Time Change

Introduction from the Warlords

  • Zextol: Main raid lead
  • Lineda / Peepo / DrLime: Weekend main lead
  • Quetzie: Analysis & Tech Support
  • Tiraffe: Analysis & General Strategy
  • Urostek: Guild Leader (above the Warlords!). Recruiter, supplier, raffle master, smoother-of-issues, rules master, final say in all things period.
  • Sparkle & Huge: Helping out Peepo with loot rolls, communication, etc during the weekend event

Rule Reminders & Changes


  • You do NOT have to offer loot up if you don’t want to. Loot is yours!
  • If you DO receive loot you want to trade:
    • Trade unwanted loot to designated RL (usually Peepo/Lineda/Drlime)
    • Raid Lead will put it up for roll
    • Interested parties roll according to set loot priority
    • Main char main spec: /roll 100
    • NEW: Everyone / everything else: /roll 50
  • NEW: You can no longer bring multiple characters of the same classes to raids (IE two demon hunters, two druids, two DKs). One class per person, so you’re not gearing multiple of the same character type against others trying to gear different characters.

Confirming Raid Rules

  • Members confirming raid participation will need to confirm by Friday before raid.
    • If raid is at 5pm on Saturday, you cannot confirm the rules at 4pm Saturday.
    • You need to have messaged a Warlord by 11:59pm Friday.
    • If you confirm the rules after Friday, you must wait until the following week to join in the raid.
  • This gives us time to verify that you have hit any minimum requirements, and prevents problems of expected turnout / composition (too many healers / tanks, undergeared DPS, etc).
  • How to confirm:

Arriving on time

  • Please show up at the half-hour pre-raid start time.
    • This means that if raid starts at 7pm, you should be ready for invites at 6:30.
    • No “let me finish doing my world quests”, no “I’m on an alt I’ll log onto my main at 6:55”, no delays.
  • This allows time for people who forgot to do things during the week – buy prepots, enchants, etc. You can change talents based on what boss we’re doing next, too.
  • Once we’re organized and ready to roll, then we can start clearing trash.
  • The more people who show up early, the sooner we can actually pull a boss on time.
  • Obviously if you can’t be online early because of work / school / etc, that’s understandable – but if you’re online, you’re expected to be in the raid.

Discord / Lines of Communication

  • If you know you’re going to be missing a night, please let us know in the Raiding Attendance channel.
  • Change your discord name / add your character name to your Discord name (for example “Ben (Blestis)”).
  • The Discord channels will be our primary source of notification for all of the following.
    • Raiding Announcements: General updates such as raid cancellations, time changes, current progression boss encounter videos and special events being offered to Vanguards
    • Raiding Discussion: Discussion, including any of the mentioned notes in Raiding Announcements. If you have questions, information to share, etc, post it here.
    • Raiding Attendance: If you’re going to be late or absent, please let us know.
    • Website Feed: Lots of posts that are important will get crossposted to the raiding announcements channel, but not all will.
  • If you don’t see information in the discord, don’t hesitate to reach out to us – we might have forgotten.
    • Also, if we say something verbally, feel free to tell us “Hey you should add that to a post / put it in raiding announcements”. We don’t want to forget to share important information!
  • If something is in these channels, “I didn’t know / I didn’t see it” is not an excuse.
    • We’re going to start cracking down more heavily on simply telling people “read the discord” this tier – many of us have spent the last several years repeating ourselves via in-game PMs and Discord DMs, and we’re not going to do that anymore.
  • We will be requiring people to use Push-to-talk or be extremely cognizant of background noise. We will be server muting people if they are not on push-to-talk.

Discord Bots

  • Quetzie has spent a decent amount of time setting up Discord bots for us.
  • Khadgar Bot
    • !khadgarhelp will list everything
    • !weakauras will respond with required weakauras.
    • !raid lists raid times in EST
    • !raidguides lists the 9.2 raiding information pages. Intro to Raiding is required reading.
    • !rules links to the rules pages.
  • Keystone Bot
    • Not directly related to raiding, but helps find key groups
    • @Keystone set [dungeon] [level] [modifiers]
      • Example: @Keystone set mists 9 sanguine volcanic
      • Alt example: @keystone alt Urotorg set halls 5
      • You can leave off the modifiers, example: @Keystone set spires 9


  • We pride ourselves on being nontoxic, no drama, no yelling, being kind, etc
  • We run this for you guys – 2 groups x 2 nights a week + background time = basically a part time job for multiple people. We ask that you respect us as well as each other. Also constantly PMing raid leads is a no-no.
  • No toys, warlock / mage portals, swapblasters, SHAPESHIFTER TRANSMORPHER GUY, etc.
    • Except on breaks, but it ends when break ends!
  • No coming to raids drunk or high
    • Seriously, it’s pretty obvious.
  • NEW: Mage portals etc are now instant. Anyone putting them on top of warlock gates, summoning stones, etc will be removed with no excuses. Please say where portals are going before putting them down. You will be sat if you break this rule.
  • NEW: Read the “General Guild Info” for general expectations of members in the guild

Benching / Sitting

  • We have a loose “3 strike / 2 strike” rule.
    • If you make 3 minor mistakes resulting in a wipe, you will be benched for the boss.
    • If you make 2 major mistakes, you will be benched for the boss.
    • If you continue to wipe the raid over time, you will be benched for the night until you can improve mechanically.
  • If a Warlord asks to sit you, it’s not because of a personal grudge. It’s because your DPS or mechanics are failing the team and causing the boss to be significantly more difficult than it needs to be.
    • If you are experiencing technical issues that are impacting your performance, please communicate with one of the Warlords or Urostek outside of the raid, and we’ll see what we can do to help resolve it. With how large the raid groups can get, you may see deviations from your normal gameplay experience.
  • This doesn’t mean you’re permanently benched! We can and will work with you to bring you up to speed on mistakes you made and help you grow as a player.
  • Do not argue or talk back with the Warlord about why you were sat. Feel free to discuss it with them or with Urostek after the raid night is over.
  • If you have a problem with something mid-raid, please be constructive if you choose to bring it up.
    • Complaining about individual performance is not constructive
    • Also, it is generally the sort of thing that you should feel comfortable “sharing with the class”.
    • Linking of DPS meters mid-raid is disallowed – we’ve seen them, we know.
  • If you have something constructive – “Can you mark this add” or “do you want me to call out X mechanic”, or similar, that is immensely more helpful than mid-raid bitching.
  • That said…feel free to PM us nice things. We like nice things

Raiding Ahead

  • We know that people are excited to start the new raid.
  • Raiding on the same difficulty as your raid group locks out your ability to receive loot. This means you may ‘eat’ loot.
    • If there are 20 people in a raid, 4 pieces of loot could drop. If you already killed the boss, and the game decides you get the loot….nobody gets it, and the raid only gets 3 pieces.
    • However, you can raid ahead on alts.


  • After a guild member has attended a total of five (5) individual Raid events in one month they will be promoted to “Vanguard” in the guild.
    • This feature will grant you access to the Raiding Equipment tabs in the guild bank, a higher guild bank repair bill, and qualify you for special events such as progression boss raffles and celebrations.
  • In order to keep this status, the Vanguard is asked to make at least 66% of raids per month.
  • We may eventually require Vanguards to donate materials to help guild runs. We don’t require any donations yet, but any volunteers for cauldrons / alchemy, food / feasts, enchanting mats, etc, is welcome.
  • Vanguards are also expected to participate in BoE farms.
    • BoE farms are days that we go into mythic Castle Nathria, kill trash mobs, and hope that mythic loot level BoEs drop. Any drops during this time are given to Uro and he sells them to fund guild repairs, raid materials, etc
    • We try to do this once a week, but we won’t know a good BoE farm spot until the raid opens.
    • Any BoEs that drop during normally scheduled raids are yours to keep.

Getting Good

  • Check the player performance category on the website.
  • Don’t skip Mythic+ during the week!
    • Always check in guild chat or the keystones channel in Discord for groups.
    • The more M+ you do, the better gear you will get.
    • Don’t just come to raids and then complain if you’re not getting drops.
    • You get out what you put in!
    • If you need help or have limited playtime, let us know! We’ll try to make same-same mythic+ groups to help you out.
  • Tiraffe and Quetz can help with class resources and reading Warcraft logs if you’re having issues.
    • There are also a number of good resources in the player performance category to get you started.
  • If you get sat, you should work with T&Q to improve.

Raid prep:

  • Officially, any of the normal content creators who do boss how-tos will be fine to watch. This includes FatBossTV, Hazelnutty, etc.
  • Mythic Trap has mechanic-by-mechanic breakdowns for each boss fight, highlights what’s important to specific roles, and highlights the differences between normal, heroic, and mythic. Start with Guardian and check out the rest.
    • Before fights we will give like a 60 second tldr, but not a multi-minute explanation. This is just to jog your memory, not teach it to you. Please see aforementioned resources to get a sense of boss fights.
  • We want you to have a good understanding of mechanics but we do not expect perfection on day one. There are going to be a lot of “Oh, that’s what they meant by XX!” moments as we start raiding.
  • Never raided before? Class guides from your class discords or wowhead will help (check !classinfo in discord)
  • Want to contribute? Alchemy: Shadestones; Food, flasks, battle potions are all welcome.
  • Get the Gateway Control Shard

Time Slot Change

  • We may be moving the raid days from Sat-Mon to Sat-Sun. Please check the discord raiding announcements!

Requirements Recap

  • 226 ilvl – to start (for normal)
    • Requirement will go up from time to time as raid progresses
  • Renown 80
  • Dbm / bigwigs, weakauras, may need MRT / ERT for some bosses
  • Intro to Raiding guide on the website
  • Push to talk or server muted
  • No cheeky toys, mage portals, etc
  • Confirm the raid rules by Friday
  • Fill out the planning sheet
  • Anyone interested in progressing further beyond heroic raid into mythic should reach out to a raidlead. We’ll keep an eye on those interested, aim to impress us.


  1. What to do about running keys?
    • Many people are willing to help, and Zurro is running the starter keystone event after the tier gets started. Key levels will ramp up over time.
  2. Will there be folks willing to help gear?
    • There will be 226 ilvl gear from a vendor in the new raid. Plus some other higher ilvl catch-up gear sources, including crafting.
  3. Who will be the weekend tanks?
    • Telann is grandfathered in, remaining tanks need to get in contact with Peepo, who will determine within the first week.
  4. Do people need to re-confirm they read the rules if they did so recently?
    1. Yes – rules were updated just this week.